I’m here because I do/did find her writing interesting and it provided me - straight, white middle aged man - with a perspective I didn’t otherwise have. I’m posting because I care about understanding the issues and value good debate, not because I’m trying to gaslight anyone.
If you want this comment section to be an echo chamber of peop…
I’m here because I do/did find her writing interesting and it provided me - straight, white middle aged man - with a perspective I didn’t otherwise have. I’m posting because I care about understanding the issues and value good debate, not because I’m trying to gaslight anyone.
If you want this comment section to be an echo chamber of people who don’t care about whether the stories are true, provided they fit the narrative, that’s fine I guess. But it makes me sad because it will make radical feminism less persuasive and effective, because people outside but sympathetic to these ideas will worry that you don’t care about getting stuff right. This community will be dragged down to the level of the right wing trolls and trans extremists who generated this story in the first place.
I acknowledge my privilege, but the response here to honest questions from a sympathetic and interested observer has been pretty hostile. That might be something to reflect on if you’re interested in changing minds or making change. I’m really interested in examples of mainstream groups forcing women to adopt new terms or campaigning for that but just can’t find any. If it’s so pervasive perhaps someone would post a link rather than questioning my motives?
Bigfudge is right. A s a radfem myself, its important to get the facts straight like the great feminists who came before me. Those women acted not on reflex but through deep thought and fact gathering. A falsehood is a falsehood. While it is true that there IS language being invented by the trans community to change how we label ourselves, its also important to point out exactly when and how thats happening.
Also to the woman in here shitting on guys for having a say, check yourself. There are misogynists and there are men just to trying to be supportive..nothing this man said here made me think he was mocking the author of this article or women. He simply wanted to get the facts straight so he could understand the clear picture. Thats what we want men to do, isn't it?
I’m here because I do/did find her writing interesting and it provided me - straight, white middle aged man - with a perspective I didn’t otherwise have. I’m posting because I care about understanding the issues and value good debate, not because I’m trying to gaslight anyone.
If you want this comment section to be an echo chamber of people who don’t care about whether the stories are true, provided they fit the narrative, that’s fine I guess. But it makes me sad because it will make radical feminism less persuasive and effective, because people outside but sympathetic to these ideas will worry that you don’t care about getting stuff right. This community will be dragged down to the level of the right wing trolls and trans extremists who generated this story in the first place.
I acknowledge my privilege, but the response here to honest questions from a sympathetic and interested observer has been pretty hostile. That might be something to reflect on if you’re interested in changing minds or making change. I’m really interested in examples of mainstream groups forcing women to adopt new terms or campaigning for that but just can’t find any. If it’s so pervasive perhaps someone would post a link rather than questioning my motives?
Men fuck up everything they touch.
The changes in language are widespread and happening everywhere. Everyone sees this.
Go play video games and shut up.
Well said
Bigfudge is right. A s a radfem myself, its important to get the facts straight like the great feminists who came before me. Those women acted not on reflex but through deep thought and fact gathering. A falsehood is a falsehood. While it is true that there IS language being invented by the trans community to change how we label ourselves, its also important to point out exactly when and how thats happening.
Also to the woman in here shitting on guys for having a say, check yourself. There are misogynists and there are men just to trying to be supportive..nothing this man said here made me think he was mocking the author of this article or women. He simply wanted to get the facts straight so he could understand the clear picture. Thats what we want men to do, isn't it?