Not only is it mutilation, and not distinguishable from masochism, the post op oriface they call a "neovagina" doesn't work. I've always assumed that a reticence of the general public to discuss sex specifics prevents us from explaining and being heard regarding the actual function of labia, clitoris, vulva and vagina. The engorgement, lubrication and elasticity of the vagina cannot occur in a tube fashioned out of an inverted penis. The male organ, like all other body parts, varies in size. Those of us heterosexual girls who've been in a few relationships know this. I therefore know that the "neovagina" the surgeon contrived from my former husband's penis in 1996, when he was around 40, could not have accommodated a "larger built" male sex partner. He dated a few men, reportedly, but then entered a relationship and a marriage with a much younger woman. They call themselves a lesbian couple. Neddy also names himself the 'mother' of the sons he's father of. The diagnosing psychologist (one appt, July 20, 1993) claimed in court that "any distress" our children express has to do with my refusal to accommodate his new identity and stay in the marriage. By now, he's had his third surgery for the breast implants. They have to be replaced every 10 years. They've gotten bigger each time, of course. I understand exactly your fears, Julie. They are determined to erase us.
Thanks Steersman. I got a good laugh out of your poke at the "grammer-nazi." They're so annoying with their smug superiority. As if we didn't know what was meant by "oriface." Unfortunately, the AI CHATGPT frequently replaces your words with a wrong guess at what it determines you want to say.
Sorry, it was maybe a bit of a stretch from correcting spelling to correcting grammar -- which is what "grammar-nazi" denotes.
But that Kirby article discussed the idea relative to the use of the related "femi-nazi" to denote those feminists who were overly "aggressive" and doctrinaire in promoting their ideology.
The author thanked me for pointing out the typo. I think it is helpful to point out people's typos so that they can correct the spelling and the mispelling no longer distracts readers from the meaning that is intended to be conveyed. I also am someone who quietly lets boys and men know when their flies are open so that they can zip up before other people end up being distracted by their unzipped flies. Of course, it is ultimately up to the writer as to whether they correct a typo, or to the boy/man if he decides to zip up or prefers to continue to walk around unzipped. :)
Maybe something of a case in point is my correction here, in a previous comment, of Julie’s and BBC's mistaken “idea” — sloppy thinking at best — that people can actually change sex.
For some transwoman to actually do so, they would have to change their testicles into functional ovaries of their own — a biological and medical impossibility. The most they can achieve is turning themselves into sexless eunuchs.
What does "they have to be replaced every 10 years mean"? I've never heard of a woman with breast implants having to remove and replace them because of passage of time, only if the implant leaks. Does he get new larger breast implants every 10 years just because he wants them (and maybe actually enjoys the hullabaloo of attention during and after the implantation surgery)? I do not mean to be ghoulish! Just trying to understand this brave new world of contrived medical/surgical "need".
Thanks for the spelling correction! Medical advice is that breast implants be replaced every 10 years. The silicone can leak undetected. When Sam Kaye detransitioned and had his 25 year old implants removed, it was a complicated surgery, because some of the silicone migrated to his lungs. Also scar tissue forms around the sacs.
Personally, I don't care if a man wants to cut off his dick and have a “fake vagina.” Plenty of men with a micropenis were bullied as kids, insulted by women they loved and despised their penis. So they changed the body they hated. That's not much different than the millions of women who are told they're defective for having small breasts who stuff silicone in their chests to feel better about themselves. (Kids can't consent, of course, and I don't want to pay for a man's elective surgery.) What's important to me is how the rest of society reacts. Trans activists think mimicking women should give a man female sex-based rights. We're in a course correction on that right now in the US.
Women grow new humans. Our vagina is a source of pleasure, with our internal clitoris wrapping it's loving arms around it. It removes discarded eggs and the lining of our uterus every month, creating opportunity for renewal. Most importantly, it is a birth canal for the new humans our bodies can create. Magic!
Isn't it just like men to think about out bodies as just receptacles for their lust and sperm? Women are not dickless men. We are unique and distinct in our own right. The surgery male transgenders get should not be called a “neovagina.” A vagina has a purpose in the female reproductive system. When doctors put an inverted penis up a hole between a man's legs, we should call that structure with a name that does not degrade the amazing function of a vagina. We are reclaiming the language of women's bodies.
To that end, we have written a US federal bill that redefines a lot of the words trans activists have been using to degrade women's rights. “Neo vagina” is one of those, along with “chest feeding” and others. We call the inverted penis structure created by a doctor a mas cavum, Latin for man hole. The bill has a lot of these clever gems. We shopped our bill to elected Democrats but they wouldn't even read it. So we gave it to Republicans. Trump's executive order on sex and gender is very similar to our bill, except ours is much more extensive. For instance, “top surgery” is defined as a duplicitous, deceptive phrase used to minimize the irreversible damage caused by amputation of healthy breasts. If Republicans pass our bill, any doctor who lies to a child and her parents with the phrase “top surgery” will be liable for damages.
If you'd like to help get this bill enacted, contact me via Substack messaging. UK folks, we'd like to share our approach with you as well. You may need to establish the right to free speech first.
Do you have a recording or transcript to share? I can't believe the issue was so strong all that time back - an actual generation ago. I only really started to become aware of the issue when our daughter gave us her stupid standard letter 6 years ago.
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I didn't know then what a chilling perv is Tatchell - I swallowed his hero sh-t before that. Nasty testosterone drunk character is what I get of Whittle. I lost any respect for the BBC gay newsman when he interviewed Glinner. Who are the others? I hold them all individually and collectively responsible for the growing 'no-contact' zeitgeist which we continue to endure.
More than a generation of naive young people are lost to their families - to what other cause than that of comic culture, ultra-leftism, groomers, grifters and big pharma? Idiots, pervs and mammon?
The tide will only start to turn from below. Controlling individuals in political parties have no interest in rescuing our neurodiverse kids because:
- they are conveniently taken out of the gene pool by their decisions
- and are stupid willing volunteers, collateral damage to medical and surgical experimentation.
I believe that Genspect is maybe the only organisation in the world at the moment which offers help to any of our kids who get off the trans-travelator.
Keep campaigning against this abuse and radicalisation of mentally unwell people . We don’t endorse anorexia or self harm .. gender disphobia is a very serious and difficult mental health issue . We should encourage people to love themselves as they are and deal with what’s happened to them NOT to hate their bodies . Thank you for your journalism and courage in trying to protect these vulnerable people who are exploited by narcissistic sociopaths and greedy private medical institutions. Bravo .
It's incredible that these trans people have been spewing their hatred and rage for well over a decade at anybody who espouses a different opinion . Why should anyone be cowed by trans objections to having a man in a dress be described "a man in a dress"!? It's just a plain fact. As factual as describing someone as a "bearded lady" if you're describing a woman deliberately sporting a beard. When I first encountered trans I felt sorry for them, never imagining they would gain a commanding foothold over the cultural, political expression allowed women, and given access to all places where women are vulnerable to male predation. I just thought they were pitiful and creepy, under the sway of some kind of sexual fantasy. Incredible how people will pander to the extent that they gradually allow these vicious control freaks to dictate what we say and make society capitulate to their twisted demands.
Absolutely no one changes sex. It is at best a case of egregious scientific illiteracy and, at worst, a monstrous euphemism for the sterilization and castration of autistic and dysphoric children, for turning them into sexless eunuchs -- crime and medical scandal of the century.
Lest I forget to mention, I am in complete awe of Julie's undaunted courage in going up against panels of frothing-at-the-mouth trans activists with her unperturable coolness and humor 💖. What a winner!
You are one brave womon to stand up to that!! I sooo can relate because I did the same in SF around those hostile to the gender critical/ rad fem/ Lesbian Separatist point of view.
Bit of a stacked deck. I remember at a WOMENS Organization,one night an FTM type pulled up her shirt and showed her shorn of breasts chest to the entire audience!! I was so disgusted, because IN THIS SAME COMMUNITY at the same time, was a Lesbian who had a double mastectomy due to breast cancer!!!! We had a fundraiser for her so she coild pay her medical bills.
So much of the trans crap on both sides is pure Narcissism!!
Female genital mutilation, ritual male circumcision, gender ideology genital mutilation; it's all unnecessary, harmful, and needs to stop. I'll be cheering for you Julie!
EVERY TIME we go under anesthetic for elective surgery (which is what "gender affirming" castration & mutilations are), we increase the odds of never coming out, people die getting cosmetic surgery, Joan Rivers was killed during what should have been simple vocal surgery. Glinner, Exulansic Death Lists & detransitioner lawsuits ALL inventory the deaths & abuses from the for-profit medical profession & institution$.
Not only is it mutilation, and not distinguishable from masochism, the post op oriface they call a "neovagina" doesn't work. I've always assumed that a reticence of the general public to discuss sex specifics prevents us from explaining and being heard regarding the actual function of labia, clitoris, vulva and vagina. The engorgement, lubrication and elasticity of the vagina cannot occur in a tube fashioned out of an inverted penis. The male organ, like all other body parts, varies in size. Those of us heterosexual girls who've been in a few relationships know this. I therefore know that the "neovagina" the surgeon contrived from my former husband's penis in 1996, when he was around 40, could not have accommodated a "larger built" male sex partner. He dated a few men, reportedly, but then entered a relationship and a marriage with a much younger woman. They call themselves a lesbian couple. Neddy also names himself the 'mother' of the sons he's father of. The diagnosing psychologist (one appt, July 20, 1993) claimed in court that "any distress" our children express has to do with my refusal to accommodate his new identity and stay in the marriage. By now, he's had his third surgery for the breast implants. They have to be replaced every 10 years. They've gotten bigger each time, of course. I understand exactly your fears, Julie. They are determined to erase us.
Typo: orifice, not oriface
👍 Despite accusations to the contrary, grammar-nazis have no designs on Poland. As Paula Kirby once put it in her "Sisterhood of the Oppressed". 😉🙂
Thanks Steersman. I got a good laugh out of your poke at the "grammer-nazi." They're so annoying with their smug superiority. As if we didn't know what was meant by "oriface." Unfortunately, the AI CHATGPT frequently replaces your words with a wrong guess at what it determines you want to say.
🙂 You might have some interest in "Sisterhood of the Oppressed" that Holly had linked to:
https://www.scribd.com/document/98971743/Sisterhood-of-the-Oppressed
The author, Paula Kirby, had some amusing elaborations on "grammar-nazis" by way of criticizing "femi-nazis":
"After a year of fringe feminist utter insanity ..."
Many feminists leave a lot to be desired and are, in fact, partly responsible for the whole transgender clusterfuck -- excuse my French ... 🙂
Huh? I have no clue what you mean. But I googled and found this, for those who are interested: https://www.scribd.com/document/98971743/Sisterhood-of-the-Oppressed
Sorry, it was maybe a bit of a stretch from correcting spelling to correcting grammar -- which is what "grammar-nazi" denotes.
But that Kirby article discussed the idea relative to the use of the related "femi-nazi" to denote those feminists who were overly "aggressive" and doctrinaire in promoting their ideology.
The author thanked me for pointing out the typo. I think it is helpful to point out people's typos so that they can correct the spelling and the mispelling no longer distracts readers from the meaning that is intended to be conveyed. I also am someone who quietly lets boys and men know when their flies are open so that they can zip up before other people end up being distracted by their unzipped flies. Of course, it is ultimately up to the writer as to whether they correct a typo, or to the boy/man if he decides to zip up or prefers to continue to walk around unzipped. :)
👍 I can tell that you're a helper … 😉🙂
Often a thankless job but someone has to do it. 🙂
Maybe something of a case in point is my correction here, in a previous comment, of Julie’s and BBC's mistaken “idea” — sloppy thinking at best — that people can actually change sex.
For some transwoman to actually do so, they would have to change their testicles into functional ovaries of their own — a biological and medical impossibility. The most they can achieve is turning themselves into sexless eunuchs.
What does "they have to be replaced every 10 years mean"? I've never heard of a woman with breast implants having to remove and replace them because of passage of time, only if the implant leaks. Does he get new larger breast implants every 10 years just because he wants them (and maybe actually enjoys the hullabaloo of attention during and after the implantation surgery)? I do not mean to be ghoulish! Just trying to understand this brave new world of contrived medical/surgical "need".
Thanks for the spelling correction! Medical advice is that breast implants be replaced every 10 years. The silicone can leak undetected. When Sam Kaye detransitioned and had his 25 year old implants removed, it was a complicated surgery, because some of the silicone migrated to his lungs. Also scar tissue forms around the sacs.
I had no idea.
Personally, I don't care if a man wants to cut off his dick and have a “fake vagina.” Plenty of men with a micropenis were bullied as kids, insulted by women they loved and despised their penis. So they changed the body they hated. That's not much different than the millions of women who are told they're defective for having small breasts who stuff silicone in their chests to feel better about themselves. (Kids can't consent, of course, and I don't want to pay for a man's elective surgery.) What's important to me is how the rest of society reacts. Trans activists think mimicking women should give a man female sex-based rights. We're in a course correction on that right now in the US.
Women grow new humans. Our vagina is a source of pleasure, with our internal clitoris wrapping it's loving arms around it. It removes discarded eggs and the lining of our uterus every month, creating opportunity for renewal. Most importantly, it is a birth canal for the new humans our bodies can create. Magic!
Isn't it just like men to think about out bodies as just receptacles for their lust and sperm? Women are not dickless men. We are unique and distinct in our own right. The surgery male transgenders get should not be called a “neovagina.” A vagina has a purpose in the female reproductive system. When doctors put an inverted penis up a hole between a man's legs, we should call that structure with a name that does not degrade the amazing function of a vagina. We are reclaiming the language of women's bodies.
To that end, we have written a US federal bill that redefines a lot of the words trans activists have been using to degrade women's rights. “Neo vagina” is one of those, along with “chest feeding” and others. We call the inverted penis structure created by a doctor a mas cavum, Latin for man hole. The bill has a lot of these clever gems. We shopped our bill to elected Democrats but they wouldn't even read it. So we gave it to Republicans. Trump's executive order on sex and gender is very similar to our bill, except ours is much more extensive. For instance, “top surgery” is defined as a duplicitous, deceptive phrase used to minimize the irreversible damage caused by amputation of healthy breasts. If Republicans pass our bill, any doctor who lies to a child and her parents with the phrase “top surgery” will be liable for damages.
If you'd like to help get this bill enacted, contact me via Substack messaging. UK folks, we'd like to share our approach with you as well. You may need to establish the right to free speech first.
Please remember that "chestfeeding" is NOT a term used by transfeminine men, notorious for mentioning “my breasts” at every possible opportunity.
Do you have a recording or transcript to share? I can't believe the issue was so strong all that time back - an actual generation ago. I only really started to become aware of the issue when our daughter gave us her stupid standard letter 6 years ago.
.
I didn't know then what a chilling perv is Tatchell - I swallowed his hero sh-t before that. Nasty testosterone drunk character is what I get of Whittle. I lost any respect for the BBC gay newsman when he interviewed Glinner. Who are the others? I hold them all individually and collectively responsible for the growing 'no-contact' zeitgeist which we continue to endure.
More than a generation of naive young people are lost to their families - to what other cause than that of comic culture, ultra-leftism, groomers, grifters and big pharma? Idiots, pervs and mammon?
The tide will only start to turn from below. Controlling individuals in political parties have no interest in rescuing our neurodiverse kids because:
- they are conveniently taken out of the gene pool by their decisions
- and are stupid willing volunteers, collateral damage to medical and surgical experimentation.
I believe that Genspect is maybe the only organisation in the world at the moment which offers help to any of our kids who get off the trans-travelator.
Transgender Trend also
yes you are correct! Thanks for the reminder.
Oh my goodness, I can’t imagine having the sheer iron-clad tits to put oneself through an ordeal like that! Hats off to you!
Keep campaigning against this abuse and radicalisation of mentally unwell people . We don’t endorse anorexia or self harm .. gender disphobia is a very serious and difficult mental health issue . We should encourage people to love themselves as they are and deal with what’s happened to them NOT to hate their bodies . Thank you for your journalism and courage in trying to protect these vulnerable people who are exploited by narcissistic sociopaths and greedy private medical institutions. Bravo .
It's incredible that these trans people have been spewing their hatred and rage for well over a decade at anybody who espouses a different opinion . Why should anyone be cowed by trans objections to having a man in a dress be described "a man in a dress"!? It's just a plain fact. As factual as describing someone as a "bearded lady" if you're describing a woman deliberately sporting a beard. When I first encountered trans I felt sorry for them, never imagining they would gain a commanding foothold over the cultural, political expression allowed women, and given access to all places where women are vulnerable to male predation. I just thought they were pitiful and creepy, under the sway of some kind of sexual fantasy. Incredible how people will pander to the extent that they gradually allow these vicious control freaks to dictate what we say and make society capitulate to their twisted demands.
I remember it well! But I had no idea you were so nervous. It didn’t show.
Absolutely no one changes sex. It is at best a case of egregious scientific illiteracy and, at worst, a monstrous euphemism for the sterilization and castration of autistic and dysphoric children, for turning them into sexless eunuchs -- crime and medical scandal of the century.
And nearly (soon) 20 years on…the TRA song remains the same. At least it looks like the tide may be turning.
Lest I forget to mention, I am in complete awe of Julie's undaunted courage in going up against panels of frothing-at-the-mouth trans activists with her unperturable coolness and humor 💖. What a winner!
Sounds awful. Well done for facing up to them.
You are one brave womon to stand up to that!! I sooo can relate because I did the same in SF around those hostile to the gender critical/ rad fem/ Lesbian Separatist point of view.
Bit of a stacked deck. I remember at a WOMENS Organization,one night an FTM type pulled up her shirt and showed her shorn of breasts chest to the entire audience!! I was so disgusted, because IN THIS SAME COMMUNITY at the same time, was a Lesbian who had a double mastectomy due to breast cancer!!!! We had a fundraiser for her so she coild pay her medical bills.
So much of the trans crap on both sides is pure Narcissism!!
Female genital mutilation, ritual male circumcision, gender ideology genital mutilation; it's all unnecessary, harmful, and needs to stop. I'll be cheering for you Julie!
EVERY TIME we go under anesthetic for elective surgery (which is what "gender affirming" castration & mutilations are), we increase the odds of never coming out, people die getting cosmetic surgery, Joan Rivers was killed during what should have been simple vocal surgery. Glinner, Exulansic Death Lists & detransitioner lawsuits ALL inventory the deaths & abuses from the for-profit medical profession & institution$.
Would love to see a recording of this, or read a transcript?
Either available?
Thanks always for your leadership!