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This is a fascinating conversation. And all the better that it includes genuine challenge, discussion, and debate. You both come across as thoughtful and compassionate but determined to argue a case that matters deeply. Thank you

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Thanks Julie. Good to hear you asking challenging questions. This is the only way forward in my view. Cancelling people for minor infractions of the party line won’t achieve an end to gender identity ideology. Sound analysis and respectful debate is far more likely to win support.

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Feb 10Liked by Julie Bindel

A fascinating & stimulating discussion. A perfect example of how we should be conducting this debate. Much to take away form this. Thank you, both of you, for demonstrating #yesdebate, and how to progress through the mire.

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Feb 11·edited Feb 11

Brilliant and courageous, both. So good I listened twice, so much food for thought. Thank you for doing this, Julie x

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I remember hearing an interview with Debbie Hayton, and he spoke of being very distressed when he realized that girls could wear tights and he could not, because he was a boy. My question is: was he attracted to being a female, or was he attracted to being able to wear clothing that typically is associated with females?

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That was extraordinarily enlightening, many thanks for inviting Debbie onto your podcast.

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Amazing interview.

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I liked it to Debbie.

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