This was a great discussion, especially hearing more about the historical experience of lesbians: and that "LGB" has never been monolithic -- never mind the T's exploitation and attempted appropriation of the entire LG(B) movement. Also more evidence that many gays and lesbians are now so thoroughly sick of the T that they wish to have nothing to do with it: not to be associated with its delusions, its homophobia, its misogyny, and its determination to control our speech and actual thoughts. A cult that still claims "victimhood" despite its being a powerful new orthodoxy with multi-institutional capture. It lies at every level: both to itself and to us.
I especially appreciate you touching on (at 28:00) that the normalization of pedophilia, being in the mix for these radicals...I've been sounding this claxon for months, here on substack.
My thanks for standing and speaking the truth, with a credibility that only you and Douglas could have brought, as respective members of the gay and lesbian communities. In the last several months, I have come across many like yourselves, who thankfully red pilled me (where the clown car movement is concerned) to the fact that, gays and lesbians are not OK with or in agreement of this cultic movement.
I think for many straight people (like myself), the psy-ops of the regime(s) were 200% effective - we saw what they wanted us to - all of you rolled into one crazy ass burrito.
In that way, the legacy tribal divisiveness would be assured and the model of conflict and chaos would keep us all controllable, from the top.
I wonder if a new "coming out" is on the horizon - one which I think you and Douglas just did - gays and lesbians standing and saying - "I am not part of this clown show - I am me and always have been".
Your comment that "they" assumed the right to define you...reminded me of our mumbler in chief telling blacks, "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black," Those types of statements, ALWAYS tell you where you stand and reveal your expendability, in their calculations of victory or conquest.
Many in the straight community are waking to the fact, that you are not part of that crazy burrito and are appreciative. Many like myself, who see the pedophilia aspect gaining momentum, are especially thankful for your public declaration of associative independence, from the cult mob. Not only do it help us to understand the lie we've been old and bought - but we also see that we are allies in this fight - which I see as a intentional and targeted attack on the children via trans and pedophilic grooming.
Thanks for bringing the truth, in the face of ridicule and persecutions.
You both summed it up well "love wins" especially when you're cancelling, beating up, ostracizing, attacking, doxing and demonizing gays and lesbians - after you've hi-jacked their identities and platforms, so you can push a radical, debased agenda.
Lol, I've followed both Julie and Douglas separately for many years, I strongly disagree with each of them on many things and strongly agree with each of them on other things, but I often find both of them both hilarious, fun and inspiring to listen to. I never dreamed I'd see them both together, combining their wit and cutting humour haha. Such an enjoyable conversation.
The last line by Douglas was priceless: "Love wins especially when you're beating up lesbians."
Great interview and the irrepressible laughter (even between 2 intellectuals and activists with such opposite views on so much else) is a sign that the tides are turning on the normalized madness of identity politics ideology. And yes: new misogyny. It's wonderful that Douglas says that (but then, as he said, he won't get attacked for it).
This was a great discussion, especially hearing more about the historical experience of lesbians: and that "LGB" has never been monolithic -- never mind the T's exploitation and attempted appropriation of the entire LG(B) movement. Also more evidence that many gays and lesbians are now so thoroughly sick of the T that they wish to have nothing to do with it: not to be associated with its delusions, its homophobia, its misogyny, and its determination to control our speech and actual thoughts. A cult that still claims "victimhood" despite its being a powerful new orthodoxy with multi-institutional capture. It lies at every level: both to itself and to us.
Bindel and Murray spitting truth. Excellent.
That was just brilliant. Shared to social media, for whatever good that will do.
Wow I never thought i would agree much with Douglas Murray! Great discussion.
I agree! And I was laughing out loud at some of his comments, serious as this issue is!
The best interview ever! So much information, reality agreement. I heard a new term today the flat sexers!
Excellent discussion with Douglas, Julie!!
I especially appreciate you touching on (at 28:00) that the normalization of pedophilia, being in the mix for these radicals...I've been sounding this claxon for months, here on substack.
My thanks for standing and speaking the truth, with a credibility that only you and Douglas could have brought, as respective members of the gay and lesbian communities. In the last several months, I have come across many like yourselves, who thankfully red pilled me (where the clown car movement is concerned) to the fact that, gays and lesbians are not OK with or in agreement of this cultic movement.
I think for many straight people (like myself), the psy-ops of the regime(s) were 200% effective - we saw what they wanted us to - all of you rolled into one crazy ass burrito.
In that way, the legacy tribal divisiveness would be assured and the model of conflict and chaos would keep us all controllable, from the top.
I wonder if a new "coming out" is on the horizon - one which I think you and Douglas just did - gays and lesbians standing and saying - "I am not part of this clown show - I am me and always have been".
Your comment that "they" assumed the right to define you...reminded me of our mumbler in chief telling blacks, "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black," Those types of statements, ALWAYS tell you where you stand and reveal your expendability, in their calculations of victory or conquest.
Many in the straight community are waking to the fact, that you are not part of that crazy burrito and are appreciative. Many like myself, who see the pedophilia aspect gaining momentum, are especially thankful for your public declaration of associative independence, from the cult mob. Not only do it help us to understand the lie we've been old and bought - but we also see that we are allies in this fight - which I see as a intentional and targeted attack on the children via trans and pedophilic grooming.
Thanks for bringing the truth, in the face of ridicule and persecutions.
You both summed it up well "love wins" especially when you're cancelling, beating up, ostracizing, attacking, doxing and demonizing gays and lesbians - after you've hi-jacked their identities and platforms, so you can push a radical, debased agenda.
Well done, to you both!
I love seeing Julie crak up over Douglas's rapier wit and commentary. Both these people have earned a strong and meaningful voice.
Sooo enjoyed this. Thank you
Lol, I've followed both Julie and Douglas separately for many years, I strongly disagree with each of them on many things and strongly agree with each of them on other things, but I often find both of them both hilarious, fun and inspiring to listen to. I never dreamed I'd see them both together, combining their wit and cutting humour haha. Such an enjoyable conversation.
Love both Douglas and Julie. Such interesting people with grounded opinions. Well done to the young man interviewing too, nice job.
The last line by Douglas was priceless: "Love wins especially when you're beating up lesbians."
Great interview and the irrepressible laughter (even between 2 intellectuals and activists with such opposite views on so much else) is a sign that the tides are turning on the normalized madness of identity politics ideology. And yes: new misogyny. It's wonderful that Douglas says that (but then, as he said, he won't get attacked for it).
Thank you! Great interview.