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What a brilliant conversation. Thought-provoking and wide-ranging and completely real. Also quite informative. The sound was reminiscent of a cassette recorder from the 1970s and gave it a vintage vibe that I loved. Thank you.

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I’m fascinated by this but distracted by the heavy breathing and rustling noises. What’s going on???

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I thought this was a very good conversation.

I have been trying to bring awareness of Blanchard's research on autogynephilia to NGOs, charities and the medical sector -- that it is more likely the truth about the nature of cross-sex identification, rather than the current narrative that everyone has a "gender identity" that can become "trapped" in the wrong body.

I put together a referenced, illustrated memo:

https://transpolicy.substack.com/p/trans-memo

I share it here in case anyone else wants to similarly raise the subject of autogynephilia to others.

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It's such a relief to hear you two talk on a public platform. This is how you know we're winning. I get to hear this amazing conversation rather than scramble under my digital bedclothes frantically piercing both of your writings and research together like I'm writing a crazy person note out of collage.

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That was both interesting and educational, I learned so much in that brief conversation. Thank you Julie and Ray.

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Dec 27, 2023·edited Dec 27, 2023

This relaxed conversation between two keen students of sexuality and gender, Ray Blanchard and Julie Bindel, covered a lot of ground. Their lived experiences and intelligent observations gave perspective and help untangle the mess of political and ideological nonsense currently squelching rational discussion about sexuality and transgenderism.

Ray Blanchard made an interesting comment about transsexual Christine Jorgensen (made famous in the 1950's) and Hearst publications. The official story, told by Jorgensen and the mainstream media, has Jorgensen as an unwitting victim of publicity, her "very private" story leaked to the press. But rumours that she was an accomplice to the "leaked" story have circulated for decades. If Jorgensen was proactive in leaking her story, a very different scenario from the official story unfolds, with the media (and those behind it) more actively engaged in promoting transsexualism.

Reading some of the comments here, critical of the audio (which is excellent), or calling Ray Blanchard a misogynist, or going off on hate fuelled tangents, only illustrate how far we are from discussing these topics calmly and rationally. To Julie Bindel and Ray Blanchard, thank you both for this engaging discussion. Ms. Bindel, you ended on such a tantalizing note, "Don't get me started on non-binary!" We can only hope, at some time in the near future, someone will prompt you to discuss the nonbinary nonsense.

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This guy is the biggest misogynist and I can’t believe you participated in his bs. MEN invented the entire concept of trans. This guy and his bros were sending these males into female spaces as an experiment without our consent decades ago. He started this bs. To point the finger at women who have been sold a FICTION that a FEMALE cannot contradict as she does not have any reference point to understand male sexuality or deviancy, is disgusting. You were INCORRECT when you said women also have the amputation paraphilia. They DO NOT. There are women who want amputations but it is NOT a paraphilia for them. There is no evidence of any women having any type of paraohilia. Anyway, women do not understand male paraphilias, kinks, etc. They think they do but they don’t. They are incredibly naive about male sexuality and have fallen for the lies told to them by the men that Blanchard et al unleashed onto them. They have been told that the AGP experience, for example, is like being gay. And these women often believe these man are in fact gay. Men are the worst aggressors because ALL men benefit from this and use their position to intimidate and bully women into dropping their questions. For Blanchard to sit there and lie and pretend that females and males face the same abuse when objecting to this stuff is disgusting. Boys and Men get to think and say whatever they want and go about their lives. Girls and women don’t have the same freedom or privilege. We have seen who steps up to intimidate the women who speak up in parliament. It’s the men with a type of aggression they save exclusively for women who say no.

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Interesting listen so far. Hearing Splosh magazinecome up was a throwback and a half - I knew a Woman who modelled for them back in 2000/2001 or so, pouring treacle on herself in the bath most nights. I used to think it was wacky and weird, fresh from Eurotrash. Now, not so much.

Re AGP - I find the term overused nowadays. Its become the latest thing for the more rabidly online elements of GCism to throw at *all* trans identifying Males. An example is Posie Parker screaming AGP, its always amusing - the puritanical, white picket fencer taking talking points from a sexologist, what a wacky world! Two opposite factions of the same gender cult.

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Thank you for this largely grounded and intellectually honest and candid discussion. What I marvel about most after listening to this fascinating interview is that after a long career of submerging himself in the world of serious chronic mental illness, Dr Blanchard sounds so sane. God bless him. Thank you for this interview Julie.

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