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THANK YOU so much for this fantastic interview. Such courage to keep going. I would be happy to try and broker some designers/video makers from UAL to work pro bono to create trauma informed training materials for the police and our courts. Such a simple but effective idea. Design Against Crime at CSM is doing some work in Camden with students who are generating designs against VAWG aimed at empowerment and education (of men and schools). . NBJulie we met when you kindly spoke at Caitlin's "400 years of female rebellion: talk (I am Suzanne Moore's friend she can give you my phone number). I am back at work in September and generating some prototypes that can be visualised and publicised usually gets press attention and means the authorities listen.

This sort of training should have happened years ago and in terms of prison Elizabeth Grosvenor funds trauma informed work as it impacts on women. Warm wishes - your writing is on fire laterly and very much enjoying. Lorraine Gamman

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Good conversation albeit very upsetting. Some great suggestions at the end especially the 'trauma video' idea. Keep up the excellent work. Thank you to both of you.

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