All this “white women” stuff simply implies that if women are white they experience no oppression. The idea that indigenous/black/poor/disabled women only experience their oppression because they are indigenous/black/poor/disabled again pretends that women don’t experience oppression because they have female bodies that are used and abused for sex and reproduction, their love of their children used to blackmail them into compliance of unpaid/slave labour, all underpinned by the use of violence and the threat of violence by individuals or the state.
Misogyny is the acceptable prejudice. And the “white women” thing exposes this. As Germaine Greer said, if women only knew how much men hate us. Maybe we dare not know.
like the rubbish about "younger people" -all are profiled as upstandingly 'greenie'- and immune from greed and self-interest - They are taught to despise their own inevitable natural ageing ; they think they are experts and that lived experience and boomers are worthless ( anyone over 50) They profile age as filthy rich bigot rolling in property and capital
"Filthy rich bigot rolling in property and capital" -- I think they're often unconsciously referring to their own parents and grandparents... (of course depending on how much money and property their family has) My impression is that many of the young people who follow that crowd have never missed a meal in their lives, with the exception of the ones with anorexia. What a world with such people in it 😢
Its just such generalised lazy myopic labels - and sure true might be their naive hatred and malaise with their own but it ignores top down greed and neo lib theft of corporates pillaging of the democratic countries assets in education , healthcare, libraries, hospitals, infrastructure ; you name it all our foodbowls water resources and mining and all being privatised to corporate offshore holding companies all not paying taxes equating to poorer individual citizens ; women and kids last by statistics then working men - black and white - but many rich corporates are not just white not just boomer not just not just
there are white sex slaves and beaten white women and there are black rich women who are right wing and very very educated and serve white collar industry ; to only assume Asian and black equates with poor , victimhood and needy and benevolent in intentions is simply guff - that does not excuse nor does it deny the wrong done to peoples who happen to be of colour and who may of been taken for service and property
No, it correctly identifies how feminism only caters to middle-class white women. This is a fact. Black women, Latina women, and Asian women and other minority women are on their own. Especially poor women. You, feminists, are complaining about the temperature in the office, poor women don't have that luxury.
I think you are confusing “liberal feminism” with feminism Alexforever. It’s the kind the patriarchy supports because it gives them everything they want including women having to have a second job in an office because it doesn’t pay for the vast majority of caring work, and when it does pay, the pay is rubbish. The kind of women who work in the patriarchy and support it through “liberal feminism” are the ones complaining about the office temperature, thinking that the office will cater for their needs, which is a joke. They might serve the patriarchy but they will always be it’s second class citizens however much they work for it.
I do wonder though, if they had their way, how much the men would start complaining about the office temperature….?
Spot on, Julie- the idea that feminism belongs to any body or class other than sex, is offensive, false and just another weak ass tactic to divide feminists. Great post, thank you xx
It's tragic and shameful that women are guilty of encouraging this bollocks, too. Sorry men, but whatever the grievance, I'll NEVER understand why women attack women who fight for women.
IMO, this is also a response to white womens’ movements succeeding. The more we suceed the more dangerous we become and the louder the mob must bray. You’re never bullied because you’re bad, you’re bullied because you’re good. Whiite women are a threat. 💪🏻
Thank you for this important message. The "privileged" white woman myth has real life consequences, from individual women who are denigrated and ostracized to the phenomenon of white girls "transing" out entirely for fear of becoming such a loathsome creature as a plain old "white woman." It's just a new form of witch hunting, the oldest hate fueled into a frenzy by social media. Nobody wants to be the next Central Park Karen or Amber Heard. So much to say about this, but for now heartfelt thanks to Julie Bindel for speaking up for all women.
As Zelda D’Aprano, a key Women’s liberationist in Melbourne, Australia wrote in the Women’s Liberation Newsletter in 1973, “There are women who are not industrial workers who proceeded to tell all of us so called “middle-class” women what working class women want. In my anger, I have asked myself why am I ignored even though all the women know I am an industrial worker? . . . Why are all the women in the movement who work in offices, shops etc being told they are middle class?” Further, in a 1995 edition of her autobiography she pointed out that as “more working women enter the movement and become aware and articulate they cease to be seen as working class and the cry continues., ‘Where are the working class women?’”.
When it was first coined, the term "intersectionality" was used as a way to organize the complications around feminism: complications of class, color, etc. that are too nuanced to play well on social media.
All this “white women” stuff simply implies that if women are white they experience no oppression. The idea that indigenous/black/poor/disabled women only experience their oppression because they are indigenous/black/poor/disabled again pretends that women don’t experience oppression because they have female bodies that are used and abused for sex and reproduction, their love of their children used to blackmail them into compliance of unpaid/slave labour, all underpinned by the use of violence and the threat of violence by individuals or the state.
Misogyny is the acceptable prejudice. And the “white women” thing exposes this. As Germaine Greer said, if women only knew how much men hate us. Maybe we dare not know.
like the rubbish about "younger people" -all are profiled as upstandingly 'greenie'- and immune from greed and self-interest - They are taught to despise their own inevitable natural ageing ; they think they are experts and that lived experience and boomers are worthless ( anyone over 50) They profile age as filthy rich bigot rolling in property and capital
"Filthy rich bigot rolling in property and capital" -- I think they're often unconsciously referring to their own parents and grandparents... (of course depending on how much money and property their family has) My impression is that many of the young people who follow that crowd have never missed a meal in their lives, with the exception of the ones with anorexia. What a world with such people in it 😢
Its just such generalised lazy myopic labels - and sure true might be their naive hatred and malaise with their own but it ignores top down greed and neo lib theft of corporates pillaging of the democratic countries assets in education , healthcare, libraries, hospitals, infrastructure ; you name it all our foodbowls water resources and mining and all being privatised to corporate offshore holding companies all not paying taxes equating to poorer individual citizens ; women and kids last by statistics then working men - black and white - but many rich corporates are not just white not just boomer not just not just
Well it used to be over 30
there are white sex slaves and beaten white women and there are black rich women who are right wing and very very educated and serve white collar industry ; to only assume Asian and black equates with poor , victimhood and needy and benevolent in intentions is simply guff - that does not excuse nor does it deny the wrong done to peoples who happen to be of colour and who may of been taken for service and property
No, it correctly identifies how feminism only caters to middle-class white women. This is a fact. Black women, Latina women, and Asian women and other minority women are on their own. Especially poor women. You, feminists, are complaining about the temperature in the office, poor women don't have that luxury.
I think you are confusing “liberal feminism” with feminism Alexforever. It’s the kind the patriarchy supports because it gives them everything they want including women having to have a second job in an office because it doesn’t pay for the vast majority of caring work, and when it does pay, the pay is rubbish. The kind of women who work in the patriarchy and support it through “liberal feminism” are the ones complaining about the office temperature, thinking that the office will cater for their needs, which is a joke. They might serve the patriarchy but they will always be it’s second class citizens however much they work for it.
I do wonder though, if they had their way, how much the men would start complaining about the office temperature….?
Spot on, Julie- the idea that feminism belongs to any body or class other than sex, is offensive, false and just another weak ass tactic to divide feminists. Great post, thank you xx
It's tragic and shameful that women are guilty of encouraging this bollocks, too. Sorry men, but whatever the grievance, I'll NEVER understand why women attack women who fight for women.
It's also known as the "divide and conquer" strategy.
Keep nailing it Julie!
And this is well connected to the Karen’ trope..
Translation: white bitch.
The hierarchies of oppression created by identity politics is part of the problem, as theorised by Kimberley Crenshawe.
IMO, this is also a response to white womens’ movements succeeding. The more we suceed the more dangerous we become and the louder the mob must bray. You’re never bullied because you’re bad, you’re bullied because you’re good. Whiite women are a threat. 💪🏻
Spot on Lucy 👍🏼
Thank you for this important message. The "privileged" white woman myth has real life consequences, from individual women who are denigrated and ostracized to the phenomenon of white girls "transing" out entirely for fear of becoming such a loathsome creature as a plain old "white woman." It's just a new form of witch hunting, the oldest hate fueled into a frenzy by social media. Nobody wants to be the next Central Park Karen or Amber Heard. So much to say about this, but for now heartfelt thanks to Julie Bindel for speaking up for all women.
These are good questions with sound answers. Read them if you want to understand how the system divides then conquers. Thanks Julie!
As Zelda D’Aprano, a key Women’s liberationist in Melbourne, Australia wrote in the Women’s Liberation Newsletter in 1973, “There are women who are not industrial workers who proceeded to tell all of us so called “middle-class” women what working class women want. In my anger, I have asked myself why am I ignored even though all the women know I am an industrial worker? . . . Why are all the women in the movement who work in offices, shops etc being told they are middle class?” Further, in a 1995 edition of her autobiography she pointed out that as “more working women enter the movement and become aware and articulate they cease to be seen as working class and the cry continues., ‘Where are the working class women?’”.
Julie can probably relate to this.
When it was first coined, the term "intersectionality" was used as a way to organize the complications around feminism: complications of class, color, etc. that are too nuanced to play well on social media.
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