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I want to be on a desert island with Julie & Hadley! I don’t think I’ve ever punched the air so vigorously (& alarmed the dog quite so much) while listening to this insightful, straightforward & utterly honest conversation between two modern feminist warriors (apologies for the battle imagery, but we’re in a struggle aren’t we..?)

Thank you both so much for saying all the things that have been swirling in my head, especially about gender ideology. This conversation needs to be out there in the wider media & in the world.

Bravo Julie, & I can’t wait to read Hadley’s new book.

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thanks so much. That felt like a lovely chat with friends on a driech January morning and a perfect excuse for me to delay getting out there with the dog. More of this please Julie!

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Poor dog.

Mine hates me when I do this.....

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Really good interview. I so admire the stand Hadley took at The Guardian over the refusal to allow her to report on gender issues. Coincidentally I have just put out a post exploring how the character of Ellen Ripley in the film Alien broadens the scope of femininity. A woman can just be what she is, be herself without conforming to someone else's sex stereotypes. Good luck with the book. It's a very important subject. Fat is a Feminist Issue by Susie Orbach really helped me as a young woman, and the new theories on anorexia sound really interesting. I'm sure Hadley's book will help a lot of people.

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I loved this

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Just great stuff. It's just so good to see people say "this isn't progressive".

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Wonderful interview, really thought provoking. Clear, honest thinking, not bending to fashion or convenience. Thank you both.

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Wonderful conversation, could listen to the pair of you all weekend. Fascinated by what Hadley shared about anorexia being about a fear of becoming a woman. Really looking forward to reading her book

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What a great conversation! I so appreciate your intelligent pushback against the gender identity paradigm.

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Fabulous interview, thank you so much

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Breath of fresh air!

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Great listen! Very interesting for me as a recovering anorexic (who has since been late diagnosed as autistic and is also a lesbian!) as the comparison of the seduction of anorexia (and particularly the pro ana "subculture") with the promises from the gender ideology cult that you can avoid your womanhood, deny your body and escape any association with your sexuality is very compelling. It is the same "type" of girls (often autistic, people pleasing personality, often withdrawn and suffering from comorbid mental health conditions) are susceptible to the lure of eating disorders as with the gender cult. I have no doubt that, if I was an adolescent nowadays, rather than being anorexic, I would have absolutely fallen into the trap of deciding I was no longer a female instead.

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Oh Julie!

This was bliss!

I love Hadley's writing, share her passion for 80s movies and, of course, you were great as always.

Warren

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