I hadn't thought that pimping is the worlds oldest profession in the world before, but you are right. Going to add that to my feminist argument arsenal.
No, we tend to be more often the victims of violent crimes than the perpetrators of such crimes. Feminism highlights this fact and the oppression of women as a,sex class. But many people can't relate to their own vulnerability and shame and blame victims just not to feel the fear of being vulnerable. Some men will do anything not to be accountable and they project their own lack of responsibility onto women and their victims
Is the claim that women, acting as independent contractors and engaging in an exchange of pleasure for compensation, are still victims? Or is the claim that there's simply no good reason for a feminist movement to be supportive of such choices?
Where are the statistics to back up your assertion that the numbers used by Julie are wrong? If you are going to play the numbers game, give us the numbers, otherwise why should I believe you and not Julie who has been at the pit-face of this issue for decades?
In the same article I look at all crimes in the same way. "Feminists come up with these ridiculous stats by sleight of hand, by routinely misrepresenting numbers of rape claims with rape convictions. Only rape is misrepresented in this way. Were all crimes to be calculated by the same methodology, “shockingly” less than 8% of all crimes would end in a conviction. The fact is, when compared to other crimes rape has a higher conviction rate at 62%, than manslaughter and GBH."
My point is only rape is continually portrayed this way. Why is that?
2nd question: if the goal is to get more victims to report and stay in the system, what is the best way to do that?
Yes, it does. The Sisterhood of Perpetual Victimhood can only recruit new members and raise funds by convincing gullible white Western women that they are somehow oppressed when in reality they are the most protected and privileged demographic on earth
It's odd how this claim that prostitution is the oldest profession has become so ingrained in our culture. Prostitution has never been a profession anyway, it's something women have done under duress for a very short period of time and get out of as soon as they possibly can (as the Facebook meme has it, no one is trafficking engineers and architects); the likelihood of it having taken hold in primitive societies before things like midwifery, pottery, farming, weaving etc., seems like such an unlikely proposition that you wonder why the idea ever took hold.
You have used some clever arguments but still not solved the issue that if these women are not victims, why are you fighting their cause. Victimhood is the basket that you carry feminist arguments in. You can't throw the basket away without spilling all your arguments and not being able to retrieve them.
Rachel Moran says: "The thing to do when a woman is hungry is to put food in her mouth and not your cock."
What a powerful statement! Excellent article too, thanks 🙂
Yes! I’m using it.
I hadn't thought that pimping is the worlds oldest profession in the world before, but you are right. Going to add that to my feminist argument arsenal.
No, we tend to be more often the victims of violent crimes than the perpetrators of such crimes. Feminism highlights this fact and the oppression of women as a,sex class. But many people can't relate to their own vulnerability and shame and blame victims just not to feel the fear of being vulnerable. Some men will do anything not to be accountable and they project their own lack of responsibility onto women and their victims
Brilliant, as always~ thank you for this!
Thanks Julie. This is a really good summary. 👍🏼
Thanks so much, Julie. To the point, no mucking about. Love your writing.
Is the claim that women, acting as independent contractors and engaging in an exchange of pleasure for compensation, are still victims? Or is the claim that there's simply no good reason for a feminist movement to be supportive of such choices?
Feminist rape myths -> https://paulawright.substack.com/p/i-am-lumpenfrau-hear-me-roar
Yes, feminism - and you especially - promote victimhood. I wrote a whole Substack on it here https://paulawright.substack.com/p/radical-feminism-back-on-brand
Where are the statistics to back up your assertion that the numbers used by Julie are wrong? If you are going to play the numbers game, give us the numbers, otherwise why should I believe you and not Julie who has been at the pit-face of this issue for decades?
In those links, she does give the statistics and their sources, in extensive detail.
I'm glad you asked. There are links to stats in the article and more here. https://paulawright.substack.com/p/i-am-lumpenfrau-hear-me-roar
In the same article I look at all crimes in the same way. "Feminists come up with these ridiculous stats by sleight of hand, by routinely misrepresenting numbers of rape claims with rape convictions. Only rape is misrepresented in this way. Were all crimes to be calculated by the same methodology, “shockingly” less than 8% of all crimes would end in a conviction. The fact is, when compared to other crimes rape has a higher conviction rate at 62%, than manslaughter and GBH."
My point is only rape is continually portrayed this way. Why is that?
2nd question: if the goal is to get more victims to report and stay in the system, what is the best way to do that?
Yes, it does. The Sisterhood of Perpetual Victimhood can only recruit new members and raise funds by convincing gullible white Western women that they are somehow oppressed when in reality they are the most protected and privileged demographic on earth
Pithy, evidence-based and very, very helpful. Thanks Julie.
It's odd how this claim that prostitution is the oldest profession has become so ingrained in our culture. Prostitution has never been a profession anyway, it's something women have done under duress for a very short period of time and get out of as soon as they possibly can (as the Facebook meme has it, no one is trafficking engineers and architects); the likelihood of it having taken hold in primitive societies before things like midwifery, pottery, farming, weaving etc., seems like such an unlikely proposition that you wonder why the idea ever took hold.
You have used some clever arguments but still not solved the issue that if these women are not victims, why are you fighting their cause. Victimhood is the basket that you carry feminist arguments in. You can't throw the basket away without spilling all your arguments and not being able to retrieve them.
thank you once again for your wise and concise writing.
Excellent Jooles, me old cobber. As usual.